"In both cases, it is usually best to move on. Not ideal. But best."
Learn it here before you have to learn it the hard way. Sometimes there are obvious sins in otherwise decent people, and sin must kill the relationships it touches when left unchecked.
What can make it so hard is that nagging belief that because we are both Christians and both are possessed by the Holy Spirit, we have to be able to reach accord, we just *have to*
And then, reality bites you over and over until you give in, confused, resigned.
What happens in a congregation should stay in a congregation. Matt 18:15-18 and 1 Cor 6 has much to say about this.
In 1 Cor 5: Paul directed the brethren how to handle a challenge of sin in the congregation and in 2 Cor 2:5-11 receive him back and move ahead.
John even said 3 John 9-10 he would deal with one (in person) if he comes.
God's Word does not tell us to overlook sin, but shows us how to deal with it in the congregation. Those who take it elsewhere should examine themselves to see if they are in the faith (murmuring, complaining, backbiting, etc.).
Can confirm. I was staff. The comments were consistent reaching back years from a plurality of former core people across the life of the church. Several elders saw the patterns and the sin, as did several other staff who either resigned or were pushed out. Not enough to make sure the right thing happened. I tried to "help others see." What I really did was exhaust myself and convince some people I must be off my rocker. I turned it over to the Lord and moved on. Wish I would have had this message 2 years ago. Hoping someone like me gets it now. The Lord sees all and will not let anything go unattended to. Repent. And trust. Good word brother. Much joy, peace, and even fellowship on the other side, and it came much faster after letting it go.
I was in a church with conflict. The pastor brought in a pastor from the Presbytery to help. He had us sing The Church's One Foundation, implying we were all demonic. Then he told people to leave if they didn't like the pastor.
A disaster. The congregation was not split, and everyone was just trying to figure out wha the problem was that created malaise in the church. Shortly after, the church dissolved.
"In both cases, it is usually best to move on. Not ideal. But best."
Learn it here before you have to learn it the hard way. Sometimes there are obvious sins in otherwise decent people, and sin must kill the relationships it touches when left unchecked.
What can make it so hard is that nagging belief that because we are both Christians and both are possessed by the Holy Spirit, we have to be able to reach accord, we just *have to*
And then, reality bites you over and over until you give in, confused, resigned.
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What happens in a congregation should stay in a congregation. Matt 18:15-18 and 1 Cor 6 has much to say about this.
In 1 Cor 5: Paul directed the brethren how to handle a challenge of sin in the congregation and in 2 Cor 2:5-11 receive him back and move ahead.
John even said 3 John 9-10 he would deal with one (in person) if he comes.
God's Word does not tell us to overlook sin, but shows us how to deal with it in the congregation. Those who take it elsewhere should examine themselves to see if they are in the faith (murmuring, complaining, backbiting, etc.).
Can confirm. I was staff. The comments were consistent reaching back years from a plurality of former core people across the life of the church. Several elders saw the patterns and the sin, as did several other staff who either resigned or were pushed out. Not enough to make sure the right thing happened. I tried to "help others see." What I really did was exhaust myself and convince some people I must be off my rocker. I turned it over to the Lord and moved on. Wish I would have had this message 2 years ago. Hoping someone like me gets it now. The Lord sees all and will not let anything go unattended to. Repent. And trust. Good word brother. Much joy, peace, and even fellowship on the other side, and it came much faster after letting it go.
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I was in a church with conflict. The pastor brought in a pastor from the Presbytery to help. He had us sing The Church's One Foundation, implying we were all demonic. Then he told people to leave if they didn't like the pastor.
A disaster. The congregation was not split, and everyone was just trying to figure out wha the problem was that created malaise in the church. Shortly after, the church dissolved.